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	<title>Comments on: With Hazing At Least You Get to Be a Senior Eventually</title>
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	<description>Technopopulist contrarianism. (Technocontrarianist populism?)</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sammy</title>
		<link>http://www.thisblogisoverrated.com/2009/01/27/with-hazing-at-least-you-get-to-be-a-senior-eventually/#comment-18440</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most parents try to help their children survive bullying. There is no way for a parent to solve the problem, just help their child survive it and stay mentally and physically healthy.  There's a special place in hell for bullies.  And to say "sorry" when they grow up doesn't cut it. They should keep the guilt to their grave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most parents try to help their children survive bullying. There is no way for a parent to solve the problem, just help their child survive it and stay mentally and physically healthy.  There&#8217;s a special place in hell for bullies.  And to say &#8220;sorry&#8221; when they grow up doesn&#8217;t cut it. They should keep the guilt to their grave.</p>
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		<title>By: ILikePants</title>
		<link>http://www.thisblogisoverrated.com/2009/01/27/with-hazing-at-least-you-get-to-be-a-senior-eventually/#comment-18413</link>
		<dc:creator>ILikePants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, I definitely know what it's like to bullied. 

I agree, kids don't need to be bullied to understand injustice.  But when kids are bullied, and mom and dad solve their problems for them (that is, if the bully doesn't beat the ever loving hell out of the bullied kid for telling), they don't learn to deal with this kind of tough, unfair situation.

Most parents do TRY to teach their kids--but I'd assert that most parents wouldn't know what would be effective or useful in that situation. Often, advice from parents makes it worse.  On this, I speak from personal experience (myself and friends of mine). Often, parents were bullied as kids too, are still affected by it, and still have no clue how to deal with bullies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, I definitely know what it&#8217;s like to bullied. </p>
<p>I agree, kids don&#8217;t need to be bullied to understand injustice.  But when kids are bullied, and mom and dad solve their problems for them (that is, if the bully doesn&#8217;t beat the ever loving hell out of the bullied kid for telling), they don&#8217;t learn to deal with this kind of tough, unfair situation.</p>
<p>Most parents do TRY to teach their kids&#8211;but I&#8217;d assert that most parents wouldn&#8217;t know what would be effective or useful in that situation. Often, advice from parents makes it worse.  On this, I speak from personal experience (myself and friends of mine). Often, parents were bullied as kids too, are still affected by it, and still have no clue how to deal with bullies.</p>
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		<title>By: A squared resident</title>
		<link>http://www.thisblogisoverrated.com/2009/01/27/with-hazing-at-least-you-get-to-be-a-senior-eventually/#comment-17882</link>
		<dc:creator>A squared resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you do not really understand what it is like to be bullied.  Kids don't need to be traumatized by bullies to realize there is injustice in the world, or some people are just jerks.  We all learn that easily enough, even those of us who have not been brutalized by bullies.  Most parents do try to teach their kids how to handle these difficult situations.  C'mon, get real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you do not really understand what it is like to be bullied.  Kids don&#8217;t need to be traumatized by bullies to realize there is injustice in the world, or some people are just jerks.  We all learn that easily enough, even those of us who have not been brutalized by bullies.  Most parents do try to teach their kids how to handle these difficult situations.  C&#8217;mon, get real.</p>
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		<title>By: ILikePants</title>
		<link>http://www.thisblogisoverrated.com/2009/01/27/with-hazing-at-least-you-get-to-be-a-senior-eventually/#comment-17841</link>
		<dc:creator>ILikePants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, bullied kids who DO get "help" from their parents never learn that:

-there is injustice in the world.
-sometimes--but not always--people are beating on you because you're being a dick.
-there are people in this world who are huge dickheads and will pick on you for no good reason.
-it's important to tell the difference between these two situations.
-you sometimes have to stand up for yourself.

There's a fine line between parents helping kids going through the bullying and parents solving their kids' problems.  These issues should be taken seriously, and parents CAN help--but not by doing things like talking to the other kid's parents.  That helps nobody.  

Instead, parents need to teach their kids how to cope with the pain, how to fight back when necessary, and how to avoid unnecessary conflict.  IMO, the problem is that most parents don't know how to do this themselves.  So they either tell their kids to suck it up, or they go to the principal or bully's parents and try to stop it that way, which inevitably makes it worse for the kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, bullied kids who DO get &#8220;help&#8221; from their parents never learn that:</p>
<p>-there is injustice in the world.<br />
-sometimes&#8211;but not always&#8211;people are beating on you because you&#8217;re being a dick.<br />
-there are people in this world who are huge dickheads and will pick on you for no good reason.<br />
-it&#8217;s important to tell the difference between these two situations.<br />
-you sometimes have to stand up for yourself.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a fine line between parents helping kids going through the bullying and parents solving their kids&#8217; problems.  These issues should be taken seriously, and parents CAN help&#8211;but not by doing things like talking to the other kid&#8217;s parents.  That helps nobody.  </p>
<p>Instead, parents need to teach their kids how to cope with the pain, how to fight back when necessary, and how to avoid unnecessary conflict.  IMO, the problem is that most parents don&#8217;t know how to do this themselves.  So they either tell their kids to suck it up, or they go to the principal or bully&#8217;s parents and try to stop it that way, which inevitably makes it worse for the kid.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://www.thisblogisoverrated.com/2009/01/27/with-hazing-at-least-you-get-to-be-a-senior-eventually/#comment-17517</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The adult intervention is even more effective if the adult is an eccentric martial arts instructor named Miyagi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The adult intervention is even more effective if the adult is an eccentric martial arts instructor named Miyagi.</p>
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		<title>By: Joker</title>
		<link>http://www.thisblogisoverrated.com/2009/01/27/with-hazing-at-least-you-get-to-be-a-senior-eventually/#comment-17348</link>
		<dc:creator>Joker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Y so serious?"

     --Sorry, had to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Y so serious?&#8221;</p>
<p>     &#8211;Sorry, had to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: this blog is overrated</title>
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		<dc:creator>this blog is overrated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!  I held on to it for a week because I thought it was "too serious."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!  I held on to it for a week because I thought it was &#8220;too serious.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: A squared resident</title>
		<link>http://www.thisblogisoverrated.com/2009/01/27/with-hazing-at-least-you-get-to-be-a-senior-eventually/#comment-17335</link>
		<dc:creator>A squared resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the most insightful piece I have read on this blog and hits the nail right on the head.  Bullied children can grow up with the scars of childhood haunting them throughout their adulthood because adults refused to take it seriously, or..they could grow up to be like Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the most insightful piece I have read on this blog and hits the nail right on the head.  Bullied children can grow up with the scars of childhood haunting them throughout their adulthood because adults refused to take it seriously, or..they could grow up to be like Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.</p>
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